Joe, I do understand your point, but sometimes its better to just show the world the truth.
Steven, you seriously need to take a step back and stop shooting yourself in the foot. Its not me who looks like a fool. You honestly think anyone is taking you seriously?
First of all you are not even a pro member of apsense none the less a deluxe member. You don't have half as many connections as I do. You have a whopping 3 recommendations - of those 3 its clear
You've once again outdone yourself, Bruce. Lay this one down and move on... again...Proverbs 26:4-5 (NIV) -
4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.
5 Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes.
Ironically I have done LOT with reseller programs. I have dealt with many different reseller hosting company's and even a reseller ISP back in the day of dialup.
A reseller program is something you pay a fee for, and then can resell at whatever price you want. THat is HARDLY what empower network is. With empower network there is NO 100% commission plan. Its a pyramid. This is why you must pass your "commissions" every x number of sales.
I also LOVE that this guy walks away with "its not li
Aneesahmed, If you're seriously looking at finding a good program and provided you have (or can get) a Paypal account, feel free to have a look at DSDomination, just follow this link: http://www.apsense.com/article/what-is-dropshipping.html
Went through all comments, quite interesting and specially Bruce Sir u put a lot of effort on explaining about empower network .. Myself i am out of empower network few months back.. But many of them Supported S.F.I . i have to look over it again..
I'm not an EN "person" I just happen to use the product and generate a few sales by mentioning it in my monthly newsletter.
Home business has a 95% failure across the board. It's not just empower network and other companies. It's brick and mortar businesses too. And the 95% who fail (normally by virtue of their own willpower) will blame everything except themselves. I can dig up 'overwhelming evidence' on any company I choose to, as any failure can blog about how the company was bad because t
Aneesahmed Arab asked the question "Which Kind of Affiliate Program to Join ?". I checked his profile and it seems he’s not a member of any such program and thus might be seriously looking at joining some affiliate program... So what has been the quality of the advice he has received so far?
1. A whole bunch of people saying SFI is the best thing since they discovered the shape of a wheel, but not even one gave an explanation to make me feel like I want to know more… will Aneesahmed Arab
Empower Network is a reseller program. Very different from cash gifting. I'll make it simple for you Bruce: resellers pay for master resell rights. When you pay into Empower Network, you are buying reseller rights to their training products and blogging platform. You pay monthy for the hosting.
It's basically an affiliate program. Why go and compare it cash gifting? To even think there's a connection between the two programs in terms of structure boggles the mind.
lol indeed and as I said the same was true of zeek..... which was closed as a scam.... the same was true of profitable sunrise which was closed for being a scam, in fact most scams make people money - until they are closed....
Making money does not make something legal or moral.
Using your logic its okay to sell drugs too - cause it makes money - end of story... all that tells me is you care more about money than being an honest marketer. There is a lot more to this industry than making mone
Steven, which "that article" are you referring to? I posted 5 of them. Are you referring to the very well known ana hoffman (the first one)? Would you have said the same of Kristi Hines? How about Marcus sheridon (aka the sales lion)? You clearly don't know much about what defines a scam and I don't care how much money you can generate from them. Was zeek a scam despite the fact they were paying people up until the US federal government shut them down? If you are a seasoned pro as you say... the
no offense, but the person who wrote that Empower Network article sounds like a year 1 marketing noob. I joined Empower Network when it first launched directly under David Wood and still get a sizable commission check to this day. Income generation tools are only a SCAM for those who fail at marketing succesfully.
Comments (44)
Shaf Brady SEOtraini...
10
Online Business Shop Services
join mine... ^_^ no tricks & we dont play games!
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
Josh the pleasure is entirely mine.
Joe, I do understand your point, but sometimes its better to just show the world the truth.
Steven, you seriously need to take a step back and stop shooting yourself in the foot. Its not me who looks like a fool. You honestly think anyone is taking you seriously?
First of all you are not even a pro member of apsense none the less a deluxe member. You don't have half as many connections as I do. You have a whopping 3 recommendations - of those 3 its clear
Josh Hennion
10
Team Leader with S.F.I.
Bruce, thank you for the thumbs up on S.F.I.
Steven Egu
12
Owner, Egu Technologies
Whatever you say Bruce. You and your minion Joe Henning can sit around on Apsense and cry about scams while the rest of us make money.
And take a business course. It's embarrassing.
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
You've once again outdone yourself, Bruce. Lay this one down and move on... again...Proverbs 26:4-5 (NIV) -
4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.
5 Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes.
Peace be with you...
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
Ironically I have done LOT with reseller programs. I have dealt with many different reseller hosting company's and even a reseller ISP back in the day of dialup.
A reseller program is something you pay a fee for, and then can resell at whatever price you want. THat is HARDLY what empower network is. With empower network there is NO 100% commission plan. Its a pyramid. This is why you must pass your "commissions" every x number of sales.
I also LOVE that this guy walks away with "its not li
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
Aneesahmed, If you're seriously looking at finding a good program and provided you have (or can get) a Paypal account, feel free to have a look at DSDomination, just follow this link: http://www.apsense.com/article/what-is-dropshipping.html
ANEESAHMED ARAB
6
System Administrator
Went through all comments, quite interesting and specially Bruce Sir u put a lot of effort on explaining about empower network .. Myself i am out of empower network few months back.. But many of them Supported S.F.I . i have to look over it again..
Tunde Obasemola
8
Affiliate Marketer
I have joined empower network, ran out and went back. But I am out finally from it. Its not as easy as they claim.
Steven Egu
12
Owner, Egu Technologies
I'm not an EN "person" I just happen to use the product and generate a few sales by mentioning it in my monthly newsletter.
Home business has a 95% failure across the board. It's not just empower network and other companies. It's brick and mortar businesses too. And the 95% who fail (normally by virtue of their own willpower) will blame everything except themselves. I can dig up 'overwhelming evidence' on any company I choose to, as any failure can blog about how the company was bad because t
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
Aneesahmed Arab asked the question "Which Kind of Affiliate Program to Join ?". I checked his profile and it seems he’s not a member of any such program and thus might be seriously looking at joining some affiliate program... So what has been the quality of the advice he has received so far?
1. A whole bunch of people saying SFI is the best thing since they discovered the shape of a wheel, but not even one gave an explanation to make me feel like I want to know more… will Aneesahmed Arab
Steven Egu
12
Owner, Egu Technologies
Empower Network is a reseller program. Very different from cash gifting. I'll make it simple for you Bruce: resellers pay for master resell rights. When you pay into Empower Network, you are buying reseller rights to their training products and blogging platform. You pay monthy for the hosting.
It's basically an affiliate program. Why go and compare it cash gifting? To even think there's a connection between the two programs in terms of structure boggles the mind.
There is a big difference be
Peter Watson aka sur...
11
Build an Income Online
The empower network thing has always made me nervous.. and if surgreen is nervous, perhaps others should be also :) .. just my opinion ;)
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
lol indeed and as I said the same was true of zeek..... which was closed as a scam.... the same was true of profitable sunrise which was closed for being a scam, in fact most scams make people money - until they are closed....
Making money does not make something legal or moral.
Using your logic its okay to sell drugs too - cause it makes money - end of story... all that tells me is you care more about money than being an honest marketer. There is a lot more to this industry than making mone
Steven Egu
12
Owner, Egu Technologies
yes you do sound like a marketing noob to me. People convert Empower Network, it makes money. End of story.
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
Steven, which "that article" are you referring to? I posted 5 of them. Are you referring to the very well known ana hoffman (the first one)? Would you have said the same of Kristi Hines? How about Marcus sheridon (aka the sales lion)? You clearly don't know much about what defines a scam and I don't care how much money you can generate from them. Was zeek a scam despite the fact they were paying people up until the US federal government shut them down? If you are a seasoned pro as you say... the
Steven Egu
12
Owner, Egu Technologies
no offense, but the person who wrote that Empower Network article sounds like a year 1 marketing noob. I joined Empower Network when it first launched directly under David Wood and still get a sizable commission check to this day. Income generation tools are only a SCAM for those who fail at marketing succesfully.
Josh Hennion
10
Team Leader with S.F.I.
Aneesahmed, why are you not satisfied with S.F.I.?
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
Never join Empower network, its a scam: http://www.trafficgenerationcafe.com/empower-network-thumbs-down/
yes empower network is a scam: http://makemoneybuildingwebsites.com/is-empower-network-a-scam-dont-ask-the-sheep
No really its a scam: http://onemorecupof-coffee.com/empower-network-review/
Still don't get it? Its a scam: http://www.glancingweb.com/1281/empowered-to-expose-the-empower-network-fraud
Are you convinced yet? http://webguymarketing.com/blog/empower-network-review-scam/
I cou
David W.
16
I help people make money on Apsense
I'm in Empower Network and LOVE IT!! Everyone should join me!!