I do agree with you overall Warren. I didn't say Clixsense was a bad product, just that I personally refuse to promote anything associated with Stormpay/12Dailypro for obvious reasons.
Stormpay's niche was the HYIP /Autosurf. Even as a payment processor so I just don't trust them. And the freezing of accounts and stealing of money was 100% stormpay. It was NOT the government who told them to freeze everyones accounts and vanish with millions.
If we want to look back over the years I would say the two worst scams ever were zeek rewards and a program few seem to remember was the "12 daily pro" autosurf hyip.... that program seemed to dupe the entire marketing industry.
any and all hyip's are the worst in my opinion. They are blatant scams and the people who join them know it but feel its okay as long as they are not the ones referring people - even though they no full well they only get paid because the last people in before they bust are the ones who end up paying everyone and losing everything - homes, retirements, their kids college funds, bank accounts, everything....
Second to that is Empower network (and beast blog or whatever the new crap scam they cam
Steven that doesn't condemn Clixsense at all. I know I have had hundreds of ventures I participated in online fail, but that doesn't mean I can't have success as I learn, does it? Clixsense is extremely successful no matter what Stormpay did. Even more to the point, Stormpay's failure was not as a result of anything they did, it was mostly because of the 12DailyPay (4DailyPay is more current) scam collapsing and not anything else. I used Stormpay for years and was sorry to see it go.
Don't confuse Clixsense with StormPay, they are totally different. StormPay was a money processor like PayPal and Clixsense is a viable Paid To Click program that has been paying for many years (just not very much) and has been a great resource for cheap advertising.
Steven, sorry to bring back those memories but it does help others to avoid the same troubles so you should smile about that...I can tell you I see people going down the same path though...thanks for you time and great share.
I was pretty new to 'internet marketing' in 4dailypro. First company I built over 7000 referrals, and was making pretty stupid money. Was the first "profitable" affiliate program I built, and it was so easy because you could build it with cheap PTC.
When Stormpay (which is now clixsense) froze all 4dailypro payouts, I think I had something like $25,000 in that stormpay account. I was for a lack of a more angry adjective...pissed.
Steven, you know one of the worst things that happened to me was partnering with some really good ideas but bad companies as it turned out...it ruined a lot of what I had built up! That is why I tell people to be careful about what you promote and do...thanks.
Lol! Yes maybe, but have tried lots of programs over the years, so I have a few real life experiences I can share. If anyone has make some REAL money with PP I would like to hear from them and how they did it.
Comments (22)
Mike G.
12
Marketer
Thanks all for your shares!
Szabolcs Titko
15
Working on future
I think that hyip's are the worst, like Bruce said. I don't think that Empower Network is a scam.
Steven Egu
12
Owner, Egu Technologies
I do agree with you overall Warren. I didn't say Clixsense was a bad product, just that I personally refuse to promote anything associated with Stormpay/12Dailypro for obvious reasons.
Stormpay's niche was the HYIP /Autosurf. Even as a payment processor so I just don't trust them. And the freezing of accounts and stealing of money was 100% stormpay. It was NOT the government who told them to freeze everyones accounts and vanish with millions.
It's not about Clixsense "making a mistake," its
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
If we want to look back over the years I would say the two worst scams ever were zeek rewards and a program few seem to remember was the "12 daily pro" autosurf hyip.... that program seemed to dupe the entire marketing industry.
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
any and all hyip's are the worst in my opinion. They are blatant scams and the people who join them know it but feel its okay as long as they are not the ones referring people - even though they no full well they only get paid because the last people in before they bust are the ones who end up paying everyone and losing everything - homes, retirements, their kids college funds, bank accounts, everything....
Second to that is Empower network (and beast blog or whatever the new crap scam they cam
Warren Contreras
14
Old Retired Guy
Steven that doesn't condemn Clixsense at all. I know I have had hundreds of ventures I participated in online fail, but that doesn't mean I can't have success as I learn, does it? Clixsense is extremely successful no matter what Stormpay did. Even more to the point, Stormpay's failure was not as a result of anything they did, it was mostly because of the 12DailyPay (4DailyPay is more current) scam collapsing and not anything else. I used Stormpay for years and was sorry to see it go.
Steven Egu
12
Owner, Egu Technologies
Clixsense is owned by the same people as Stormpay Warren source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StormPay
Clixsense was a later venture to replace the income lost when Stormpay lost its niche after the government labeled 4Dailypro a ponzi
Warren Contreras
14
Old Retired Guy
Don't confuse Clixsense with StormPay, they are totally different. StormPay was a money processor like PayPal and Clixsense is a viable Paid To Click program that has been paying for many years (just not very much) and has been a great resource for cheap advertising.
Mike G.
12
Marketer
Steven, sorry to bring back those memories but it does help others to avoid the same troubles so you should smile about that...I can tell you I see people going down the same path though...thanks for you time and great share.
Steven Egu
12
Owner, Egu Technologies
I was pretty new to 'internet marketing' in 4dailypro. First company I built over 7000 referrals, and was making pretty stupid money. Was the first "profitable" affiliate program I built, and it was so easy because you could build it with cheap PTC.
When Stormpay (which is now clixsense) froze all 4dailypro payouts, I think I had something like $25,000 in that stormpay account. I was for a lack of a more angry adjective...pissed.
Live and learn. That's what I always say.
Mike G.
12
Marketer
Steven, you know one of the worst things that happened to me was partnering with some really good ideas but bad companies as it turned out...it ruined a lot of what I had built up! That is why I tell people to be careful about what you promote and do...thanks.
Mike G.
12
Marketer
Thomas, what was bad about it? Thanks.
Steven Egu
12
Owner, Egu Technologies
I think the worst opportunity was 4dailypro. That POS costed a lot of people A LOT of money
Thomas Bergel
10
Quality Internet Sales
Without a doubt it's Ron Walsh's EZ Wealth Solution.
Mike G.
12
Marketer
OK, our inbox will be full of...something soon but you have given me a great question to ask that will get the spam really rolling. Thanks.
Sondra C.
9
Virtual Entrepreneur
Well...they have to share their success secrets and give some approximate actual earnings, not just spam us to be taken seriously.
Mike G.
12
Marketer
Sondra, you have just created a nightmare of spam! LOL, good luck with that one!
Sondra C.
9
Virtual Entrepreneur
Lol! Yes maybe, but have tried lots of programs over the years, so I have a few real life experiences I can share. If anyone has make some REAL money with PP I would like to hear from them and how they did it.
Mike G.
12
Marketer
Sondra, careful now! You may rattle some cages...kidding, thanks as always...in fact I can't thank you enough but I will try right now.
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Hope you get that message!
Sondra C.
9
Virtual Entrepreneur
Project Payday where you spend more money and take up more of your time than earn.