I have spent countless months really digging into what empower network does and offers. For the longest time i was at a loss as to whether they were what I would call a scam or whether they were legitimate. The more I researched and learned, the more it became clear to me.
What empower network sells is nothing more or less than a blogging platform. Until Sept when they are to release ENv2 their blogging system is nothing short of a wordpress blog. That means its the same blogging software you
@ Bill, I have made my fortune designing derivative trading systems and using them myself! I couldn't have done it without the university education in Math & Computer Science which didn't cost me an arm and a leg either.
Being impressed by the show at the Denver millionaire admiration club requires a special mind set I have no use for, honestly! It is just another perfect example of an income distribution mechanism at work of no, or very little value to exactly those people who could use a fe
@Warren Yes parading million dollar earners, giving them achievement awards is hype at it's highest degree. The untold factor is that it was a matter of fact and not a promise. Kinda of reminded me of the Tony awards. It sells the vision, it encourages hope, those folks are know better or different then you or I. They just worked smarter not harder. Ever here of 'work less make more money' ?
And Warren, where I disagree with you is that hype is not their product. It starts with an authoritati
@William you confuse me, what you said was, "I strongly disagree with Warren. Truth of the matter is that hype does sell" and I don't wee that as a disagreement at all. I didn't say selling Hype was bad, just that it was their real product. The Denver show is a case in point, parading million dollar earners across a stage is major hype.
@Joe, Just a comment on the majority of EN memberships are not on the 10k/mo level, yet I might add. FYI, all the performance training offered in the back office are conducted by whom all earn well over 10k/mo. They are all leaders and passionate about helping others achieve a level of success they attained. Funny thing is they really have no preference about what business your in, they will help you succeed. Some actually have another primary business. Knowing what they love to do is not duplic
@ Brian, Like your your honest perception. Everyone has a story, some come from rock bottom, inspiring, some do not. Like Lawrence Tam, who came from an engineering background, go figure, earning around 170k/year. I suppose it wasn't about the money but rather the freedom. Breaking from corporate America, retiring his wife, living a life where his family can experience life together. The story is long so I'll cut it short. FYI Lawrence Tam was one of the ring takers mentioned earlier, with over
@William Clinkscales - thanks for your responses and you do seem to be very passionate, which is always a pleasure to observe. Your question to Franto brought a smile to my lips, as the majority of the EN membership are not on the 10K/m level either.
@Franto - thanks for your good points and involvement, making it a live debate.
@Samuel and @Brian - thanks guys, appreciate your participation.
Honestly it's hard to tell from their opening 30min video where they keep saying you are about to find out then go on a tandem about how broke they were. They need to read the elevator pitch and have their personal story on a separate video in the ABOUT US tab. Just my view. I was put off by that video really along with the language, the presentation in flip flops for a first impression wasn't cutting it for me. But hey that's just me it's working for some I guess. For what it's worth.
@Franto Question? Do you earn at least 10K/mo. Performance leaders and trainers earn at least 30K/mo Just Saying, are you in a position where folks would like to be?
I had a look at the income stats and found them quite informative myself!
Much of the educational experience on the internet can be gained less costly by direct online interaction with guys like Warren Contreras or myself ... we have piled up a lot of valuable skills and insights which we enjoy sharing with people who want to learn things for themselves without first having to spend a small fortune upfront ... the problem with most of these promo systems / groups is the feeling they convey tha
@Joe @Warren Here's another video you may fine entertaining, It's a carton but quite explicit about some mentalities in the marketplace today. No pun intended, just thought I could entertain you for a moment, would like your comment tho. http://linktrack.info/fighttheforces
@Joe It's whatever you want it to be, it's all about you and your vision. I just came back from the Denver event myself. One of the highlights was presenting the EnVy awards. Awesome. The same company that makes the Superbowl rings did so for the top earners in Empower. Their were 5 who received the award which was presented to the millionaire club which was achieved in less than 3 years excluding Dave & Dave who were awarded as well. Empower was just the vehicle they choose, it was their vision
@Warren... short and simple... thanks.
@William... thanks for the input. The endisclaimer page is interesting... if I understood it correctly, about 2.5% of members earn more than $20,000 annually, 1% between $5 - $20k per annum, leaving more than 94% earning less than $5,000 per annum..... I wonder what the breakdown would be for other MLM's as these figures confirm the generally accepted idea that 95% of MLM members earn too little to make it worth the effort.
I also read the other link but w
EN's basic product is their authoritative blogging system, which is about to revolutionize the concept come this Sept. with EN/v2. Watch this short video. http://linktrack.info/enevolved The compliance is mostly concerned with the average earnings which must be available with any promotion of money's earned. You can view that here: http://linktrack.info/endisclaimer The other products offered will basically train you to be successful in any business and mostly to attain the mindset of a leade
Comments (47)
Smith George
12
Retirement Plan Specialist
retirement plan and 401k advice related thing
Earn Marketing
6
Internet Marketer
its the best thing ive joined.
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
I have spent countless months really digging into what empower network does and offers. For the longest time i was at a loss as to whether they were what I would call a scam or whether they were legitimate. The more I researched and learned, the more it became clear to me.
What empower network sells is nothing more or less than a blogging platform. Until Sept when they are to release ENv2 their blogging system is nothing short of a wordpress blog. That means its the same blogging software you
Franto Hruz
16
Online Income Systems Development
@ Bill, I have made my fortune designing derivative trading systems and using them myself! I couldn't have done it without the university education in Math & Computer Science which didn't cost me an arm and a leg either.
Being impressed by the show at the Denver millionaire admiration club requires a special mind set I have no use for, honestly! It is just another perfect example of an income distribution mechanism at work of no, or very little value to exactly those people who could use a fe
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Warren Yes parading million dollar earners, giving them achievement awards is hype at it's highest degree. The untold factor is that it was a matter of fact and not a promise. Kinda of reminded me of the Tony awards. It sells the vision, it encourages hope, those folks are know better or different then you or I. They just worked smarter not harder. Ever here of 'work less make more money' ?
And Warren, where I disagree with you is that hype is not their product. It starts with an authoritati
Warren Contreras
14
Old Retired Guy
@William you confuse me, what you said was, "I strongly disagree with Warren. Truth of the matter is that hype does sell" and I don't wee that as a disagreement at all. I didn't say selling Hype was bad, just that it was their real product. The Denver show is a case in point, parading million dollar earners across a stage is major hype.
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Joe, Just a comment on the majority of EN memberships are not on the 10k/mo level, yet I might add. FYI, all the performance training offered in the back office are conducted by whom all earn well over 10k/mo. They are all leaders and passionate about helping others achieve a level of success they attained. Funny thing is they really have no preference about what business your in, they will help you succeed. Some actually have another primary business. Knowing what they love to do is not duplic
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@ Brian, Like your your honest perception. Everyone has a story, some come from rock bottom, inspiring, some do not. Like Lawrence Tam, who came from an engineering background, go figure, earning around 170k/year. I suppose it wasn't about the money but rather the freedom. Breaking from corporate America, retiring his wife, living a life where his family can experience life together. The story is long so I'll cut it short. FYI Lawrence Tam was one of the ring takers mentioned earlier, with over
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
@William Clinkscales - thanks for your responses and you do seem to be very passionate, which is always a pleasure to observe. Your question to Franto brought a smile to my lips, as the majority of the EN membership are not on the 10K/m level either.
@Franto - thanks for your good points and involvement, making it a live debate.
@Samuel and @Brian - thanks guys, appreciate your participation.
Brian K.
4
Entrepreneur, IBO
Honestly it's hard to tell from their opening 30min video where they keep saying you are about to find out then go on a tandem about how broke they were. They need to read the elevator pitch and have their personal story on a separate video in the ABOUT US tab. Just my view. I was put off by that video really along with the language, the presentation in flip flops for a first impression wasn't cutting it for me. But hey that's just me it's working for some I guess. For what it's worth.
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Samuel, I'm hearing you, doing due diligence is an asset. Cheers
Samuel P.
6
Entrepreneur
I'm going to stay out of this one until I have all my facts gathered to make a comment. :D
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Franto Question? Do you earn at least 10K/mo. Performance leaders and trainers earn at least 30K/mo Just Saying, are you in a position where folks would like to be?
Franto Hruz
16
Online Income Systems Development
I had a look at the income stats and found them quite informative myself!
Much of the educational experience on the internet can be gained less costly by direct online interaction with guys like Warren Contreras or myself ... we have piled up a lot of valuable skills and insights which we enjoy sharing with people who want to learn things for themselves without first having to spend a small fortune upfront ... the problem with most of these promo systems / groups is the feeling they convey tha
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Joe @Warren Here's another video you may fine entertaining, It's a carton but quite explicit about some mentalities in the marketplace today. No pun intended, just thought I could entertain you for a moment, would like your comment tho. http://linktrack.info/fighttheforces
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Joe It's whatever you want it to be, it's all about you and your vision. I just came back from the Denver event myself. One of the highlights was presenting the EnVy awards. Awesome. The same company that makes the Superbowl rings did so for the top earners in Empower. Their were 5 who received the award which was presented to the millionaire club which was achieved in less than 3 years excluding Dave & Dave who were awarded as well. Empower was just the vehicle they choose, it was their vision
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
@Warren... short and simple... thanks.
@William... thanks for the input. The endisclaimer page is interesting... if I understood it correctly, about 2.5% of members earn more than $20,000 annually, 1% between $5 - $20k per annum, leaving more than 94% earning less than $5,000 per annum..... I wonder what the breakdown would be for other MLM's as these figures confirm the generally accepted idea that 95% of MLM members earn too little to make it worth the effort.
I also read the other link but w
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
EN's basic product is their authoritative blogging system, which is about to revolutionize the concept come this Sept. with EN/v2. Watch this short video. http://linktrack.info/enevolved The compliance is mostly concerned with the average earnings which must be available with any promotion of money's earned. You can view that here: http://linktrack.info/endisclaimer The other products offered will basically train you to be successful in any business and mostly to attain the mindset of a leade
Warren Contreras
14
Old Retired Guy
What they sell is HYPE and it's very marketable in todays online environment.
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
@Franto.... thanks and having a look at your profile page... will connect with you and thanks for the invite.