Wow this thread has been flowing, There are some strong opinions in here. As far as legalities are concerned. Having a JOB is the biggest SCAM PYRAMID Scheme or whatever you want to call it. Now I definitely feel where you guys are coming from and your feelings about EN. Heck I had it for 10 months before i actually looked at it for real. However when I did YES I drank the cool-aid and I love it "red flavor for those that wanted to know" But seriously EN is one of the BEST Cults oops Businesses
@Joe, as long as the authorities don't shut down EN, if they ever do so, we can't know for sure EN is legit or not. What I meant is that those community managers preferred to hear about positive results only, and threads about EN often get into heated discussions, just like the one here.
I myself prefer to stay away from EN, because I believe it's a scam, and if it's the case it will collapse sooner or later, or be shut down, and it would hurt my reputation if I was involved in it and this happ
@Philippe.... you said "the community managers didn't care if EN was legit or not"... maybe they're ignorant about the cash gifting element, as explained in http://behindmlm.com
Very nice way of seeing EN, Mike, thanks, the complaint part is a good reason to stay away. I saw communities on Google+ who refused any posts from EN members because of the controversy, the community managers didn't care if EN was legit or not
OK, all this is how I feel about any product or service I deal with...if any product I deal with has above 10% complaint ratio I drop. I have too much respect for myself and my customers to promote things that the creators don't care about.
I promote the top 10,000 companies that have affiliate programs in the world. If complaints come out about them the owners and management are jumping around fixing problems.
EN has people barely making $200 a month jumping on the sword for a company that d
@Phillip I guess I could say the same about you as far as Skype goes. Did you ever correspond with me, I can answer that with an emphatic NO.
Definition of a wussie, Slang for a person regarded as weak, ineffectual, overly sensitive, wimp etc.. I agree the term is used loosely, however I also believe it used as a deterrent of your personal position in life, and that EN can educate one that identifies with it that it doesn't half to be that way. Has nothing to do with lacking respect for folk
@William, the reason I removed your contact from skype is that you didn't talk to me for months then you threw a link at me. I use skype for building relationships, not for spamming.
You said you are bewildered after reading the comments. Well, why don't you try to answer some of them, since you believe EN is legitimate?
Things like posting every day, and doing videos as often as possible, if I understand it correctly.
Things like EN people, including the owners, saying people who don't go al
@Joe Yes I know Joe, "tongue-in-cheek", I like that. I'm bewildered after reading all the comments. So much negativity. I just don't get it, must be lack of education in business. If you fail in a business model, then slam the model. Move on to the next and fail, and slam that, and the next...? The only common denominator my friend is you. Systems work, period.
I've heard the same about Solavei, GVO/Pureleverge, Sokule, ARP not to mention Empower and the list goes on and on. These are systems
Hello Joe, Hope all is well with you. However, I think you know my answer. Not sure if I I'm going to get heavily involved with this again. Never can tell tho, each day brings new light. Cheers.
Their LinkedIn profile says "Headquartered in St. Petersburg, Florida"...
Daivd Wood lived in Costa Rica, but moved about 6 weeks ago to California. On his FB he mentioned that it's her dream to become an actress and he was thinking about living in a van and travel the world... ;-)
Comments (71)
Self Publish
8
Book Guide
Mike, hello, I usually write about current events on social blogs, I don't promote anything. I am looking to learn how to make money with Apsense.
Brian B.
7
What is your Deapest Fear?
Oh and yes I know there are some miss spelled words but you know what I was saying lol see if i can make money anyone can lol have a great night all
Brian B.
7
What is your Deapest Fear?
Wow this thread has been flowing, There are some strong opinions in here. As far as legalities are concerned. Having a JOB is the biggest SCAM PYRAMID Scheme or whatever you want to call it. Now I definitely feel where you guys are coming from and your feelings about EN. Heck I had it for 10 months before i actually looked at it for real. However when I did YES I drank the cool-aid and I love it "red flavor for those that wanted to know" But seriously EN is one of the BEST Cults oops Businesses
Mike G.
12
Marketer
Writing, you will have to help me with this one not trying to be rude or anything are you with EN? What do you promote or write about?
Self Publish
8
Book Guide
How do I make money on apsense?
Philippe Moisan
16
Tutorial videos, sci-fi writer
@Joe, as long as the authorities don't shut down EN, if they ever do so, we can't know for sure EN is legit or not. What I meant is that those community managers preferred to hear about positive results only, and threads about EN often get into heated discussions, just like the one here.
I myself prefer to stay away from EN, because I believe it's a scam, and if it's the case it will collapse sooner or later, or be shut down, and it would hurt my reputation if I was involved in it and this happ
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
@Philippe.... you said "the community managers didn't care if EN was legit or not"... maybe they're ignorant about the cash gifting element, as explained in http://behindmlm.com
Philippe Moisan
16
Tutorial videos, sci-fi writer
Very nice way of seeing EN, Mike, thanks, the complaint part is a good reason to stay away. I saw communities on Google+ who refused any posts from EN members because of the controversy, the community managers didn't care if EN was legit or not
Mike G.
12
Marketer
OK, all this is how I feel about any product or service I deal with...if any product I deal with has above 10% complaint ratio I drop. I have too much respect for myself and my customers to promote things that the creators don't care about.
I promote the top 10,000 companies that have affiliate programs in the world. If complaints come out about them the owners and management are jumping around fixing problems.
EN has people barely making $200 a month jumping on the sword for a company that d
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Phillip I guess I could say the same about you as far as Skype goes. Did you ever correspond with me, I can answer that with an emphatic NO.
Definition of a wussie, Slang for a person regarded as weak, ineffectual, overly sensitive, wimp etc.. I agree the term is used loosely, however I also believe it used as a deterrent of your personal position in life, and that EN can educate one that identifies with it that it doesn't half to be that way. Has nothing to do with lacking respect for folk
Philippe Moisan
16
Tutorial videos, sci-fi writer
@William, the reason I removed your contact from skype is that you didn't talk to me for months then you threw a link at me. I use skype for building relationships, not for spamming.
You said you are bewildered after reading the comments. Well, why don't you try to answer some of them, since you believe EN is legitimate?
Things like posting every day, and doing videos as often as possible, if I understand it correctly.
Things like EN people, including the owners, saying people who don't go al
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Phillip Not true. I answered the Question. "Empower Network or Apsense which is better?" Read it again.
I'm curious while I have your attention. Is the fact that I'm in EN the reason you removed our contact from Skype?
Roger Boisjoli
8
A Mentor with a servant`s heart
That's easy, EN is a Ponzi scheme. Need I say more?
Philippe Moisan
16
Tutorial videos, sci-fi writer
William, you haven't answered anything posted in the thread, you just once again gave your EN sales pitch
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Joe Yes I know Joe, "tongue-in-cheek", I like that. I'm bewildered after reading all the comments. So much negativity. I just don't get it, must be lack of education in business. If you fail in a business model, then slam the model. Move on to the next and fail, and slam that, and the next...? The only common denominator my friend is you. Systems work, period.
I've heard the same about Solavei, GVO/Pureleverge, Sokule, ARP not to mention Empower and the list goes on and on. These are systems
Rod D.
10
The difference of the two are equally the same. You don't own it. Both a 3rd party site. Both requires referrals to upgrade to earn commissions.
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
Hello William, glad to see you've finally arrived - involved? This is not my thread, I just provided some information...
Otilia, you made me laugh, but my statement was made "tongue-in-cheek", that means I was just joking...
Otilia Moldovan
10
Affiliate Marketer
Back to the van life style!
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
Hello Joe, Hope all is well with you. However, I think you know my answer. Not sure if I I'm going to get heavily involved with this again. Never can tell tho, each day brings new light. Cheers.
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
Their LinkedIn profile says "Headquartered in St. Petersburg, Florida"...
Daivd Wood lived in Costa Rica, but moved about 6 weeks ago to California. On his FB he mentioned that it's her dream to become an actress and he was thinking about living in a van and travel the world... ;-)