Ya know.... back in the late 80's and early 90's I used to use IRC (internet relay chat) a LOT. At the time almost every IRC client (program used to acces IRC) had this little built in "action". When you clicked a users name and selected the action the following message would be displayed:
"Bruce slapped so and so with a bit of a large trout".
At the time I thought that had to be the strangest built in action one could think of. I remember constantly thinking "who would ACTUALLY walk up and sl
Hello Lot and thanks for having found this one... you're seemingly a member of the EN team and is proud to be one, but if your note was trying to answer the question I asked, I would still not be any clearer as to what I would buy from EN.... in other words you haven't given an answer to the question, have you? Let's put it another way, if I wasn't interested in being a promoter of the EN group, would any of the products help me in my business, if I was selling insurance?
I'm pretty happy with empower network... I see many people having succes there and the training is usefull for newbies and people that do not know where to start.
Honestly, from my point of view it is also a lot about your upline if they take good care for their team or not. I can't support that brainwash idea because there are more brainwashing techniques to find in office jobs than at empower...
I do not see a problem in changing peoples mindset to learn how to sell...
So if you join empower
@Joe, wanted to thank you personally for edifying me as 'walking the stage' and yes I did so proudly. It gave me a sense of accomplishment. This of course may be achieved in any business and should be recognized in what ever means possible.
What Empower does for stage attendance is a countdown. Ex. Anyone who has made over 100k please step up on stage, then anyone who has made at least 50k in Empower please step up. When they asked for 10k, I stepped up.
It's been a few days since my last post here thinking the fact that I responded with the statement that I have my answer to the question which started the discussion would bring the discussion to an end. Thanks again to all of you and for having found a fabulous contribution from such well respected APSense members as Warren, William, Phillipe and Bruce... I would just like to have had some contributions from ex EN members and there experience of what it is that EN really sells and I'm hoping t
@Warren The ability to instantly post an audio, video or text/graphic post from a smart device is all about their integrated mobile app. (Wave of the future). This simply allows you to control your blog remotely and totally. This will be part of the product offered at the $25 level, period.
Warren I do know you well enough, sorry for the challenge. What's even more exciting is that I believe you are a person of influence.
The remaining part of your comment gravitates towards Empower being a
@William you know me well enough that you don't need to ask that question, of course I watched the video and it just adds to my distaste for how they are exploiting people who don't know any better. His description of the complication involved in embedding a YouTube video into a WordPress blog is a JOKE! If that would save me even $25 a month I would do it all day! But we all know it's NOT $25 a month, it's $50 if you want the chance to walk across that stage. In fact if you are the least bit se
@Warren That's perfectly fine. Did you copy/paste the last link in my last comment. Just asking because come this Sept. EN/v2 will not increase the cost of the product, which is $25. It may behoove you to take another look come Sept. The $50 is inclusive of becoming an affiliate of EN. That is an option. Cheers my friend.
@William it's true that I have not personally been through their training and I doubt that I will part with the $50 a month to find out if it helps me, but I have had several friends who are now in the hole and still paying for the dream that some day they can grasp all this and get rich like those on stage in Denver. If you have done that, more power to you, but I am going to keep my expenses down to $3 a month and use WordPress.
I'm back to clarify some misconceptions. Empower Network is simply a Platform for which you can use to your advantage to market yourself, your business and Empower if you choose.
Youtube is a platform, why do you use it? Facebook is a platform, why do you use that? And too many others to mention. If your results are poor using these Platforms, is it their platform, or is it you? I personally find it difficult to accept the fact that EN's platform is at fault.
As a person who writes a lot of articles, I tried EN and had no success at all. My big hang up was the language used by the two David's.
It just turns me off and I think learning something from someone who vocabulary is limited to 4 letter words beginning with "F" is not someone I look up to.
EN looks good on the surface. I will stick to more traditional net working programs.
@Philippe I personally know several who have joined, but they didn't have any following so they just sit on their hands and wait. Sure they made a couple of posts, but that was the end of their effort. I highly doubt the training is going to help them one bit.
My question about EN is : how many of their highly successful leaders already had a big following before joining? My guess would be most of them, but I might be wrong.
They are teaching Personal development and Empowering people..along with their blog product and marketing training. I am not a huge fan...but what they are doing works as I know many of the top leaders that are making money. Mostly personal development and empowering people.
Comments (47)
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
Thanks Bruce, I was waiting for the slap, but thanks again you surprised me... personally, I agree with you and will ignore any further discussion....
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
Ya know.... back in the late 80's and early 90's I used to use IRC (internet relay chat) a LOT. At the time almost every IRC client (program used to acces IRC) had this little built in "action". When you clicked a users name and selected the action the following message would be displayed:
"Bruce slapped so and so with a bit of a large trout".
At the time I thought that had to be the strangest built in action one could think of. I remember constantly thinking "who would ACTUALLY walk up and sl
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
Hello Lot and thanks for having found this one... you're seemingly a member of the EN team and is proud to be one, but if your note was trying to answer the question I asked, I would still not be any clearer as to what I would buy from EN.... in other words you haven't given an answer to the question, have you? Let's put it another way, if I wasn't interested in being a promoter of the EN group, would any of the products help me in my business, if I was selling insurance?
Lot Bee
8
Affiliate Marketing
I'm pretty happy with empower network... I see many people having succes there and the training is usefull for newbies and people that do not know where to start.
Honestly, from my point of view it is also a lot about your upline if they take good care for their team or not. I can't support that brainwash idea because there are more brainwashing techniques to find in office jobs than at empower...
I do not see a problem in changing peoples mindset to learn how to sell...
So if you join empower
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
You're welcome and all the best!!
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Joe, wanted to thank you personally for edifying me as 'walking the stage' and yes I did so proudly. It gave me a sense of accomplishment. This of course may be achieved in any business and should be recognized in what ever means possible.
What Empower does for stage attendance is a countdown. Ex. Anyone who has made over 100k please step up on stage, then anyone who has made at least 50k in Empower please step up. When they asked for 10k, I stepped up.
Although it took me 6/mo I proudly st
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
It's been a few days since my last post here thinking the fact that I responded with the statement that I have my answer to the question which started the discussion would bring the discussion to an end. Thanks again to all of you and for having found a fabulous contribution from such well respected APSense members as Warren, William, Phillipe and Bruce... I would just like to have had some contributions from ex EN members and there experience of what it is that EN really sells and I'm hoping t
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Warren The ability to instantly post an audio, video or text/graphic post from a smart device is all about their integrated mobile app. (Wave of the future). This simply allows you to control your blog remotely and totally. This will be part of the product offered at the $25 level, period.
Warren I do know you well enough, sorry for the challenge. What's even more exciting is that I believe you are a person of influence.
The remaining part of your comment gravitates towards Empower being a
Warren Contreras
14
Old Retired Guy
@William you know me well enough that you don't need to ask that question, of course I watched the video and it just adds to my distaste for how they are exploiting people who don't know any better. His description of the complication involved in embedding a YouTube video into a WordPress blog is a JOKE! If that would save me even $25 a month I would do it all day! But we all know it's NOT $25 a month, it's $50 if you want the chance to walk across that stage. In fact if you are the least bit se
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Warren again, FYI I was on stage by the way. Someday hope to be a speaker :)
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
@Warren That's perfectly fine. Did you copy/paste the last link in my last comment. Just asking because come this Sept. EN/v2 will not increase the cost of the product, which is $25. It may behoove you to take another look come Sept. The $50 is inclusive of becoming an affiliate of EN. That is an option. Cheers my friend.
Warren Contreras
14
Old Retired Guy
@William it's true that I have not personally been through their training and I doubt that I will part with the $50 a month to find out if it helps me, but I have had several friends who are now in the hole and still paying for the dream that some day they can grasp all this and get rich like those on stage in Denver. If you have done that, more power to you, but I am going to keep my expenses down to $3 a month and use WordPress.
William Clinkscales
15
DB Developer/Tech, Affiliate IM
I'm back to clarify some misconceptions. Empower Network is simply a Platform for which you can use to your advantage to market yourself, your business and Empower if you choose.
Youtube is a platform, why do you use it? Facebook is a platform, why do you use that? And too many others to mention. If your results are poor using these Platforms, is it their platform, or is it you? I personally find it difficult to accept the fact that EN's platform is at fault.
If you believe it might just be y
Terry Warner
10
My Leads Call Me
As a person who writes a lot of articles, I tried EN and had no success at all. My big hang up was the language used by the two David's.
It just turns me off and I think learning something from someone who vocabulary is limited to 4 letter words beginning with "F" is not someone I look up to.
EN looks good on the surface. I will stick to more traditional net working programs.
My 2 cents worth.
Terry
Philippe Moisan
16
Tutorial videos, sci-fi writer
@Joe, I enjoyed some vacation lately, I was less active online, this thread got my attention though, with the many comments.
@Warren, they sit on the their hands? I guess they were told there's spillover, no sponsoring or effort required :)
Warren Contreras
14
Old Retired Guy
@Philippe I personally know several who have joined, but they didn't have any following so they just sit on their hands and wait. Sure they made a couple of posts, but that was the end of their effort. I highly doubt the training is going to help them one bit.
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
Hi Philippe, I was wondering where are you hiding... :-).... thanks for the comment and imho a very valid one too...
Philippe Moisan
16
Tutorial videos, sci-fi writer
My question about EN is : how many of their highly successful leaders already had a big following before joining? My guess would be most of them, but I might be wrong.
Joe Henning
11
Your Profit Connection
I appreciate all of the input here and I think it's been a worthwhile one. Do I have an answer to my question? Yes, thank you.
Justin Middaugh
7
Co Founder, CopyPasteCash . com
They are teaching Personal development and Empowering people..along with their blog product and marketing training. I am not a huge fan...but what they are doing works as I know many of the top leaders that are making money. Mostly personal development and empowering people.