Wince would do well to make talents a lot easier to search and locate.
Payments for talents provided should be made directly without any limits at all ... it makes no sense to have to sell $50 of talents before one sees ones money ... there should be no argument in that respect!
Also it is a matter of principal. It is just not ethical for the middleman to keep money for any reason. It doesn't matter how low and insignificant the amount is. ApSence is just the middleman as far as it goes for the talents and they do get their generous fair share. There is no reason and there is no logic in having a minimum in talents payouts. They should separate talents payouts from the rest and make no minimum payments at least once per month.
Time for another facetious comment huh - If $50 is so insignificant for a small time independent business owner living in a remote part of the world with only a laptop and a campfire, why is it such a problem ? Whatever happened to democracy ?
No one is having a fit, I am simply stating an opinion. What Keyanna said, is ENTIRELY the point.
Every feature added to apsense, is added for a reason. Its added for convenience and as a means of keeping people here at apsense longer. What encouragement is there for a member to stay and use the talents feature over spending time at fivver doing the same thing?
The point in this entire network is to brand yourself and your talents. For people who own businesses or joined an mlm branding ours
Hi all. When I asked the question, it was to start a discussion. Do you think that the $50 minimum is too high? I don't want anyone to argue. I use Apsense just for networking, promoting, etc. not so much to make money. However, when I added my talent and earned money, I found it quite silly that I have to earn $50 just to withdraw my cash. I use several programs to generate cash so I'm not worried about $4. I can make $4 in a minute online and get my earning weekly. Thanks for your thoughts. Gl
This reminds me of people having a fit because they don't make hundreds of dollars with a yard sale. A yard sale is not your primary source of income, it's pocket change. No one in their right mind unless their business is to run estate sales expects to get rich with a yard sale. People have an established income stream and count the yard sale profits as extra spending money in their pocket.
You actually said the thing that is being overlooked here Muriel/Graham, Apsense has never presented
What is all the fuss about. Apsense has never advertised itself as a program to make easy, fast money. If that is what you are here for then you are in the wrong program. Apsense is a program where you can get yourself known, build up a reputation on the nett, find answers to problem and help other's with their problems. To business people, surely a good reputation is better than $50!
Hmmm Interesting, it would seem that most people believe APSenses $50 maximum payout is too high. If waiting 3 years for $50 is worth the wait, that worries me. Think about the time you invest, the money you spend and your return for those investments - is it really worth it ?? Maybe for the very few...
Unfortunately it is covered by the addition of that second statement "All such guidelines, rules, terms and conditions are hereby incorporated by reference into these Terms of Use."
That is an open statement of inclusion. By agreeing to the terms and service you are agreeing to that statement which means that by default you are agreeing to any rules, terms etc that are not specifically spelled out in the terms and service. APSense has now and always has had a $50 minimum payout. It is also c
Now I am the first to defend apsense, but when the people cry out, as the owner it is wincers job to seriously take into account the desires of the members he provides a service for.
Your entire argument about its in the terms, is completely flawed. I must agree to terms at time of signup. Things "covered by inclusion" that are not disclosed until after agreeing to terms and gaining access to said pages, were not legally covered by the terms at all. When I signed up I agreed that I was going t
The $50 Minimum payout has been the same since APSense started. You agreed to the terms and conditions did you not? Meaning that you agreed to this "Portions of the Service may be governed by posted guidelines, rules, or other terms and conditions. All such guidelines, rules, terms and conditions are hereby incorporated by reference into these Terms of Use." and like it or not from the beginning when you go to your account settings and view your earnings history it clearly states as it always
Perhaps in 2007 when you signed up thats what you agreed to but when I signed up in 2012 that was not part of the agreement I made. You say I signed up knowing this? Can you tell me how I knew this?
I can tell you where its not....
Its not on the about us page http://www.apsense.com/about.html
Its not on the how it works page http://www.apsense.com/howitworks.html
Its not in the privacy policy http://www.apsense.com/privacy.html
Its not listed in the terms of use page... not even in the part
The minimum payout has always been $50. I have been on this site since 2007 and that is what I agreed to so everyone signed up on the site already knowing this. Perhaps using APSense as it should be used, a tool to promote your primary business, there would be less complaining about what YOU agreed to in the terms and conditions and more cash flow from a primary business that you could be successfully promoting and building.
The ApSense is NOT a PTC...
It`s a Very Useful tool for Branding and Promoting.
There are so many features that could take an Year to use it at the Maximum efficiency!
Well here is my 2 cents - I also feel that $50.00 min actually puts up a red flag for me - being a site owner myself - it would tell me that there is a problem with the cash flow if a person has to raise the min amount that high. After all we all are here to earn some money and on here whether it selling your talents, clicking - it should be an attainable amount as when you put the min so high that it takes longer and longer to reach - you are discouraging your members - like I said my personal
Apart from the alexa part, Bruce Bates said it all!
Alexa is not a bad tool and it does give a good view for the traffic of websites that rank below 100.000 . Of course it can't be accurate and they never claimed that their statistics are accurate. Nevertheless, alexa is off topic. The traffic that this website gets is off topic and the amount of new members that ApSense gets each day is off topic.
The topic here is the $50 minimum. It is a problem.
Comments (43)
Keyanna Barnett
7
Residual Income Blogger
This seemed to be a very great discussion. Loved chatting with you all. :)
Lets connect.
Franto Hruz
16
Online Income Systems Development
Wince would do well to make talents a lot easier to search and locate.
Payments for talents provided should be made directly without any limits at all ... it makes no sense to have to sell $50 of talents before one sees ones money ... there should be no argument in that respect!
Captain Cook
8
Internet Marketer
Also it is a matter of principal. It is just not ethical for the middleman to keep money for any reason. It doesn't matter how low and insignificant the amount is. ApSence is just the middleman as far as it goes for the talents and they do get their generous fair share. There is no reason and there is no logic in having a minimum in talents payouts. They should separate talents payouts from the rest and make no minimum payments at least once per month.
Anon E.
12
Internet Ninja
Time for another facetious comment huh - If $50 is so insignificant for a small time independent business owner living in a remote part of the world with only a laptop and a campfire, why is it such a problem ? Whatever happened to democracy ?
Captain Cook
8
Internet Marketer
Well said Bruce once again!
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
No one is having a fit, I am simply stating an opinion. What Keyanna said, is ENTIRELY the point.
Every feature added to apsense, is added for a reason. Its added for convenience and as a means of keeping people here at apsense longer. What encouragement is there for a member to stay and use the talents feature over spending time at fivver doing the same thing?
The point in this entire network is to brand yourself and your talents. For people who own businesses or joined an mlm branding ours
Keyanna Barnett
7
Residual Income Blogger
Hi all. When I asked the question, it was to start a discussion. Do you think that the $50 minimum is too high? I don't want anyone to argue. I use Apsense just for networking, promoting, etc. not so much to make money. However, when I added my talent and earned money, I found it quite silly that I have to earn $50 just to withdraw my cash. I use several programs to generate cash so I'm not worried about $4. I can make $4 in a minute online and get my earning weekly. Thanks for your thoughts. Gl
Cheryl Baumgartner
12
Medical Billing/Coding/Insurance
This reminds me of people having a fit because they don't make hundreds of dollars with a yard sale. A yard sale is not your primary source of income, it's pocket change. No one in their right mind unless their business is to run estate sales expects to get rich with a yard sale. People have an established income stream and count the yard sale profits as extra spending money in their pocket.
You actually said the thing that is being overlooked here Muriel/Graham, Apsense has never presented
Muriel & Graham Legg...
10
Make your website mobile friendly
What is all the fuss about. Apsense has never advertised itself as a program to make easy, fast money. If that is what you are here for then you are in the wrong program. Apsense is a program where you can get yourself known, build up a reputation on the nett, find answers to problem and help other's with their problems. To business people, surely a good reputation is better than $50!
Anon E.
12
Internet Ninja
Hmmm Interesting, it would seem that most people believe APSenses $50 maximum payout is too high. If waiting 3 years for $50 is worth the wait, that worries me. Think about the time you invest, the money you spend and your return for those investments - is it really worth it ?? Maybe for the very few...
Cheryl Baumgartner
12
Medical Billing/Coding/Insurance
Unfortunately it is covered by the addition of that second statement "All such guidelines, rules, terms and conditions are hereby incorporated by reference into these Terms of Use."
That is an open statement of inclusion. By agreeing to the terms and service you are agreeing to that statement which means that by default you are agreeing to any rules, terms etc that are not specifically spelled out in the terms and service. APSense has now and always has had a $50 minimum payout. It is also c
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
Now I am the first to defend apsense, but when the people cry out, as the owner it is wincers job to seriously take into account the desires of the members he provides a service for.
Your entire argument about its in the terms, is completely flawed. I must agree to terms at time of signup. Things "covered by inclusion" that are not disclosed until after agreeing to terms and gaining access to said pages, were not legally covered by the terms at all. When I signed up I agreed that I was going t
Cheryl Baumgartner
12
Medical Billing/Coding/Insurance
The $50 Minimum payout has been the same since APSense started. You agreed to the terms and conditions did you not? Meaning that you agreed to this "Portions of the Service may be governed by posted guidelines, rules, or other terms and conditions. All such guidelines, rules, terms and conditions are hereby incorporated by reference into these Terms of Use." and like it or not from the beginning when you go to your account settings and view your earnings history it clearly states as it always
Bruce Bates
16
Cooperative marketing
Perhaps in 2007 when you signed up thats what you agreed to but when I signed up in 2012 that was not part of the agreement I made. You say I signed up knowing this? Can you tell me how I knew this?
I can tell you where its not....
Its not on the about us page http://www.apsense.com/about.html
Its not on the how it works page http://www.apsense.com/howitworks.html
Its not in the privacy policy http://www.apsense.com/privacy.html
Its not listed in the terms of use page... not even in the part
Cheryl Baumgartner
12
Medical Billing/Coding/Insurance
The minimum payout has always been $50. I have been on this site since 2007 and that is what I agreed to so everyone signed up on the site already knowing this. Perhaps using APSense as it should be used, a tool to promote your primary business, there would be less complaining about what YOU agreed to in the terms and conditions and more cash flow from a primary business that you could be successfully promoting and building.
Angel R.
16
Perpetual Student in Digital Nomad
The ApSense is NOT a PTC...
It`s a Very Useful tool for Branding and Promoting.
There are so many features that could take an Year to use it at the Maximum efficiency!
Nancy Radlinger
9
Online Business Consultant
Well here is my 2 cents - I also feel that $50.00 min actually puts up a red flag for me - being a site owner myself - it would tell me that there is a problem with the cash flow if a person has to raise the min amount that high. After all we all are here to earn some money and on here whether it selling your talents, clicking - it should be an attainable amount as when you put the min so high that it takes longer and longer to reach - you are discouraging your members - like I said my personal
Adam Smith
10
web designer
It's just to keep u busy in Apsense if you are for money here.
Captain Cook
8
Internet Marketer
Apart from the alexa part, Bruce Bates said it all!
Alexa is not a bad tool and it does give a good view for the traffic of websites that rank below 100.000 . Of course it can't be accurate and they never claimed that their statistics are accurate. Nevertheless, alexa is off topic. The traffic that this website gets is off topic and the amount of new members that ApSense gets each day is off topic.
The topic here is the $50 minimum. It is a problem.
Especially when it comes to talents, as
Maria Sajid
6
Web Designer & Consultant
Its tooo high so please make it only 20$ or less...............