THE BUX4REAL TRAGEDY - I WAS SCAMMED!
This article intends to be an open letter not only to all Bux4Real members but also to all members of "Get Paid To" sites out there.
I'm the former owner of Bux4Real, a site that I created with the intention to transform an industry full of scammers and lies, with a very few
exceptions.
After almost three Months of large investments and fighting against all sort of problems, I received an offer to sell the site, that was very high
ranked, a Google PR4 and, according Alexa, among the world's top 2.5K web properties.I sold the site two Months ago.
The site was sold to an Indian "off-line" company and I can't disclose more about that as I have a signed NDA with them, despite of being cleared scammed according my lawyers.
I received 20% of the agreement value as a down payment and the agreement was to use the site to advertise some business of mine and receive the remaining
80% in 8 payments, starting on July 18th.
For my terrible surprise, so far I did not receive nothing more, ir seems the site is not payment the members and I simply can't contact the buyers no matter how much I try.
I'm a seasoned entrepreneur and have my lawyers on it.I have nothing to do and Now it's a problem for them.
But I wanna talk about the thousands of members that, just like me, were fooled around and lost their time and money.
I'm the one that lost more in this "disaster". Hundreds of thousands dollars. Maybe I can recover it from the scammers in some years from now, maybe not.
My first will, despite of not being responsible for that, was to pay from my own pocket what was set by the new owner as "reserved balance". Money generated by members while I was
the owner but that became responsibility of the new owner to pay. But I simply have no means to do that. I have no access. No info. No database.
My good friend Engineer Mayur Gondalia was fired last week (he is back working with me since yesterday...when I was aware of the problem).
This terrible fact just shows, one more time, how "dirty" is this industry.
I may be able to recover the domain name (using legal means), as a co-founder of the registrar company that still keep the records. I'll try that hard as it's is a PR4.
But what will I be able to do with that? I have no idea. Seems a nothing...useless.
I own a new site that's is an advertisement network and somehow related to this niche. Due the exposed fact, my new site will have deep improvements and
changes to the benefit of all my members.
Well my friends...I strongly suggest that we all learn with this so painful lesson. The "Get Paid To" industry is a HUGE LIE!!! Only a very few companies were and
still are able to do a serious and honest work in this niche.
As the "top" scammed member of this online tragedy, I hope you all think very carefully before entering in a new venture like that.
Thanks for reading,
Tony Rocha - CEO
Casetronyx, Inc.
8880 Rio San Diego Drive
Rio Vista Tower.
8th Floor Office 17
San Diego, CA 92108
Twitter: @RealTonyRocha (Verified Account)
I'm the former owner of Bux4Real, a site that I created with the intention to transform an industry full of scammers and lies, with a very few
exceptions.
After almost three Months of large investments and fighting against all sort of problems, I received an offer to sell the site, that was very high
ranked, a Google PR4 and, according Alexa, among the world's top 2.5K web properties.I sold the site two Months ago.
The site was sold to an Indian "off-line" company and I can't disclose more about that as I have a signed NDA with them, despite of being cleared scammed according my lawyers.
I received 20% of the agreement value as a down payment and the agreement was to use the site to advertise some business of mine and receive the remaining
80% in 8 payments, starting on July 18th.
For my terrible surprise, so far I did not receive nothing more, ir seems the site is not payment the members and I simply can't contact the buyers no matter how much I try.
I'm a seasoned entrepreneur and have my lawyers on it.I have nothing to do and Now it's a problem for them.
But I wanna talk about the thousands of members that, just like me, were fooled around and lost their time and money.
I'm the one that lost more in this "disaster". Hundreds of thousands dollars. Maybe I can recover it from the scammers in some years from now, maybe not.
My first will, despite of not being responsible for that, was to pay from my own pocket what was set by the new owner as "reserved balance". Money generated by members while I was
the owner but that became responsibility of the new owner to pay. But I simply have no means to do that. I have no access. No info. No database.
My good friend Engineer Mayur Gondalia was fired last week (he is back working with me since yesterday...when I was aware of the problem).
This terrible fact just shows, one more time, how "dirty" is this industry.
I may be able to recover the domain name (using legal means), as a co-founder of the registrar company that still keep the records. I'll try that hard as it's is a PR4.
But what will I be able to do with that? I have no idea. Seems a nothing...useless.
I own a new site that's is an advertisement network and somehow related to this niche. Due the exposed fact, my new site will have deep improvements and
changes to the benefit of all my members.
Well my friends...I strongly suggest that we all learn with this so painful lesson. The "Get Paid To" industry is a HUGE LIE!!! Only a very few companies were and
still are able to do a serious and honest work in this niche.
As the "top" scammed member of this online tragedy, I hope you all think very carefully before entering in a new venture like that.
Thanks for reading,
Tony Rocha - CEO
Casetronyx, Inc.
8880 Rio San Diego Drive
Rio Vista Tower.
8th Floor Office 17
San Diego, CA 92108
Twitter: @RealTonyRocha (Verified Account)
Comments (36)
Tony Rocha
7
Casetronyx, Inc. - CEO
Sent to:Kirti Kesharwani
E-mail: xxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com
Total:-$70,00 USD
Date:02 AGO 2011
Time:19:23:33 PDT
Status:Sent
Subject:DONATION TO FORMER BUX4REAL MEMBER!
Observation:Here goes the donation to help you out. As I cleared explained several times, I sold the Bux4Real website 3 Months ago and I was scammed as well. I'm sending you a donation by my free will, as I know you from the time I was the owner of the site. This is a matter to my lawyers from now on!
$70,00 USD
Tony Rocha
7
Casetronyx, Inc. - CEO
PLEASE READ ABOVE WHAT WAS PUBLISHED BY CLIXSENSE ON THEIR SITE. PLEASE READ ALL INFO.JIM REALLY DID WHAT I SUPPOSED. I'D DO THE SAME IF I WAS IN HIS PLACE. THANKS A LOT JIM. PERFECT MOVE MY FRIEND.
Tony Rocha
7
Casetronyx, Inc. - CEO
Bux4Real Redirecting to ClixSense
20 Jul 2011 08:42 am
Members, as per my surprise this morning I woke to find Bux4Real.com redirecting to ClixSense. We do not know why this is happening and we have already attempted to make contact with the owner. So far, no reply. From what the previous owner of bux4real has written in his blog the person he sold the business to let it fail. Why redirect his traffic to us? A good question. The only thing we can think of is that he is trying to get more refer
Tony Rocha
7
Casetronyx, Inc. - CEO
UPDATE: I noticed that bux4real domain now redirects to a parked page. That's what I see from here.
Tony Rocha
7
Casetronyx, Inc. - CEO
BTW...someone asked here why I did not disclosed the name of the buyer before. I was not allowed to as I signed a NDA. Now that the contract was broken I have the right to disclose the name of the buyer:
Darshak Goti
Penelec Technical Services
Old Padra Road, Atladara
Vadodara 390012
penelec.mahacash@india.com
I hope it clearly answers the question and why I was not able to disclose this information before.
Tony Rocha
7
Casetronyx, Inc. - CEO
To all interested in the real truth, Clixsense owner, Mr. Jim Grago, is aware that I sold bux4real Months ago. I'm an advertiser of his sites. I have nothing to do with this insane redirection and I hope to hear back soon from Jim and my registrar about that. I suppose Clixsense made the redirection and if they did, I'd do the same as this is the same as give money to a scammer, a thief. As I said I'll post the exact transcription of Clixsense info about that as soon as I have it. About the ones
Senthilkumar K.
4
Online marketing
am also was scammed . too bad
lokmane
2
i was redirected from Bux4Realand ,i red the article and dicided to take my chances in here
Tony Rocha
7
Casetronyx, Inc. - CEO
I just noticed that the domain bux4real is being redirected to this page. This was for sure done by my dear friends from clixsense as they are probably aware of the problem. I requested the Domain registrar company via my lawyers to at least stop this redirection. I hope my appeal will be heard and it stops. I have no access to this useless domain...I wish I could and I'll do all i can to have... even if to destroy it...:-( When I have more info about that from Jim (Clixsense owner) I'll post he
Tendi Noviandi
6
Just Me
I just joined B4R for 4 months, and I thought this was a very good bux site. Why did you sold that domain? Or all site? So sad.
Ganesh Raja
7
GM
most of the PTc sites are not paying but in some of the PTC sites like onbux are paying but after 2 or 3 payments then we request they not pay.
Malvin monreal
1
wow! another good days for bad guys and bad days for good guys...whew! until when these kind of people end their glory? maybe no chance of it until we (good people working hard) decide to stop totally patronizing online work at-home! now, we don't know anymore whom to believe...and trust...
Charly C.
6
Risk Manager & Affiliate Marketer
Thanks a lot. I am going to stay away from those web sites.
Jim B.
6
Internet & eBusiness
Tony,
Thanks for your honesty and I hope you can recoup some of your loss. It is such a shame that 99% of gpt/ptc sites are scams and are ruining the lives of honest people trying to make a buck online. I have lost so much time on these sites it is sickening. I hope to find some good honest opps out there to make a few bucks online.
Good luck all.
lokmane
2
so confusing
Dipak Pokhrel
1
I have lost my time as well value. So bad how you can trust like this site. I
Pierce Meyers
6
Network Marketer
First things first. Terms of Service. All are universal and 'use at your own risk' This PTC industry is filled with upsets, dishonest admins, server crashes, payment processor accounts locking admins cash, internet
connection problems etc.
NEVER rely on the money you think your going to get until it's in your pocket.
I have been clicking PTC's for several years and have gone through dozens of
programs that have all done the same thing, Failed. I do click at several
long term sites an
Gregory Osborne
8
Online Marketing Entrepreneur...
I also put in quite a bit of promotion effort into this site, second time that I've been burned by this type of site... In another similar site I worked to sign-up 10 people only to find out that they also , SIMPLY DO NOT PAY...
You Live and Continue To Learn...(how to accept being burnt)... OUCH...
Marlau G.
9
webmaster, Online C- Generator
thanks for letting us know the truth.
Adnan Ad
1
Ada
@ Tony
Can you tell me,Now do you have domain access?